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Offline Jefgte

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Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« am: 06 Januar 2008, 00:27:21 »
 :MG:


P Panzerschiff was a project of Admiral Raeder in 1938-39 & was in the "Z" plan.

12 P Panzerschiffs were originaly in the Z plan. Mid 1939, German Staff decide to replace P1, P2, P3 by 3 battlecruisers O, P, Q with 6x38cm. Shortly later, the project was canceled.

P Panzerschiff is a nice design with classic 2T3x28cm, good cruiser protection & a slim 230m hull for 34kts.

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Jef's Shipyard is going to scratch her at 1/700WL

 :ML: :ML: :ML:


I reuse the hull that I built for my personnal P design (I made her in 3D)

So, the dimensions of the hull are correct but I must change the stem & rebuilt a transom stern.

The hull to modify with Scharnhorst & Graf Spee


Transom stern to built


Stem to modify


Stem modify


Modif of the hull lines.


Transom stern


After much sandpapering...


Top view of the hull




Jef  :MZ:

Das erste Bild mußte ich leider löschen, weil es ein in Deutschland verbotenes Symbol enthält. Ich bitte um Verständnis. Nach Unkenntlichmachung des Hakenkreuzes kann das Bild selbstverständlich wieder eingestellt werden.
Kalli
« Letzte Änderung: 06 Januar 2008, 11:30:39 von kalli »
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Offline Jefgte

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #1 am: 06 Januar 2008, 23:31:20 »
Sorry for the mistake

I post the subject on US, British & French forums

Ctrl c - Ctrl v

So, I does not remember the "verbotenes symbol"

Here is the fotos corrected of the P hull with Scharnhorst & Graf Spee





Jef  :MG:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Offline oldenburger67

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #2 am: 07 Januar 2008, 20:30:50 »
Hello Jefgte,

you are a great modeler, I´m always looking forward to see your newest Pocket Battleship Design. top top top

You seem to me to be a Pocket Battleship Addict :-D :-D :-D

go on and good Luck

Thomas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #3 am: 07 Januar 2008, 20:38:07 »
Hallo Jefgte,

some years ago I also scratchbuilt Kreuzer P, in my favourite scale 1/220 (quite space consuming  :MLL: :MLL: :MLL:)
The Material is Polystrol.

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #4 am: 07 Januar 2008, 20:47:28 »
I just did some change in contrast to the original Design.
As you can see, i redesigned the arrangement of the catapult, as it would be probable in british and german contemporaries (Warspite, Bismarck, King George  e.g:)

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #5 am: 07 Januar 2008, 20:58:41 »
And now at least a Photo of the Graf Spee and the Kreuzer P.


Good Luck with your kreuzer P.
P.S.
I like the wooden Decks of your models, i´ll try to complete my next models wit such a Deck too.

Many greeting to France and a great 2008

Thomas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #6 am: 08 Januar 2008, 00:01:48 »
Thanks for your comments Oldenburger
Happy new year too you also & of course for all German Warships Fans in the Forum

 :O-O: :OuuO: :O-O: :OuuO: :O-O: :OuuO:

I like your P built, Your model is about 1m length.
Personnally, I made no changement for the cata.
I note that on the design, 2 cranes near the 1st funnel are short to take Arado from the sea. I am not sur about the place or the length of the derrick. :/DK:  :|



Jef  :MZ:
« Letzte Änderung: 08 Januar 2008, 11:36:11 von Jefgte »
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #7 am: 13 Januar 2008, 00:32:20 »
 :MG:

 Hull update

New deck is comming to correct the transom stern rebuilt & to increase slightly the freeboard.
I add small wood thin plates, 0.5mm thick x 5mm. All are glued with wood glue, of course.







Before cutting the thin plates, I made a string of cyano glue all around the deck to have no damage on the thin plates during the cutting action.



Well, no damage on the new deck.



After much sandpapering, I drawn lines to have an uniform deck.


The junction between the thin plates are under the second hangar.
It is now difficult to see the original 5mm thin plates


Now varnish can take place...



Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #8 am: 26 Januar 2008, 23:38:23 »
 :MG:

Fore superstructure well advanced
All important pieces are ready for painting & gluing

Bridge, front blockaus, tower, searchlight platform, top blockaus...











Testing the pieces on the hull without gluing









Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Offline Jefgte

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #9 am: 10 Februar 2008, 00:18:48 »
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In progress...
















Jef  :MZ:

1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Offline Jefgte

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #10 am: 28 Februar 2008, 00:59:57 »
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Always in progress...










Jef   :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #11 am: 28 Februar 2008, 01:34:28 »
Salut Jef!

So, in the end, we do know now why Peter Tamm had to move from his Elbchaussee-Villa to the new museum at Speicherstadt in Hamburg: it's just the mere number of new models built by you, he has to prepare some space for  :-D !

Excellent work, and really convincing proportions, congratulations!

Harold
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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #12 am: 28 Februar 2008, 10:45:39 »
 :MZ:

Thanks Harold
 :OuuO:


Hmmm...
 The derricks of the cranes is not so nice. I am going to rework them...


Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

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Re: Scratchbuilding P Panzerschiff
« Antwort #13 am: 16 März 2008, 00:39:28 »
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Finish...  :/BE:
















Jef  :MZ:

1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas