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Flotten der Welt => Die italienische Marine => Italienische Marine - Geschichte und Einsätze => Thema gestartet von: de domenico am 01 Oktober 2020, 16:24:21

Titel: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: de domenico am 01 Oktober 2020, 16:24:21
You will find a resumé by Francesco Mattesini and myself of this little known topic (August, 1943)  here:

aidmen.it/forums/topic/1584-i-sommergibili-cb-del-mar-nero-di-francesco-mattesini/
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: bettika61 am 01 Oktober 2020, 17:22:03
Thanks de domenico  :MG:

http://www.aidmen.it/forums/topic/1584-i-sommergibili-cb-del-mar-nero-di-francesco-mattesini/
übersetzt (https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=de&u=aidmen.it%2Fforums%2Ftopic%2F1584-i-sommergibili-cb-del-mar-nero-di-francesco-mattesini%2F)
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: kalli am 01 Oktober 2020, 18:14:27
Eine ausführliche Beschreibung der Aktivitäten und der Versenkung von Щ-203 durch CB 4 unter Leutnant Sibille befindet sich in К.Б. Стрелбицкий: ,,Подводник России" .
Falls Francesco Interesse hat, kann ich einen Scan schicken.
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: kalli am 01 Oktober 2020, 18:33:17
Hier das Buchcover Морозов, Кулагин: ,,Щуки" (Morozov, Kulagin: ,,Shyuki), in dem der Vorgang auch beschrieben ist.
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: t-geronimo am 01 Oktober 2020, 23:11:26
Thanks Francesco and Beate!  :TU:) :O/Y
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: de domenico am 02 Oktober 2020, 10:54:47
Zitat von: kalli am 01 Oktober 2020, 18:14:27
Eine ausführliche Beschreibung der Aktivitäten und der Versenkung von Щ-203 durch CB 4 unter Leutnant Sibille befindet sich in К.Б. Стрелбицкий: ,,Подводник России" .
Falls Francesco Interesse hat, kann ich einen Scan schicken.

Yes, that would be useful. Thank you.
Francesco
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: Platon Alexiades am 05 Oktober 2020, 17:00:26
Hi Francesco,

I would add a couple of details:

1. C.B.1 (Guardiamarina Giovanni Re) reported missed by a torpedo at 0300/23 August 1943. When the wreck of SC-203 was examined, tubes 1 and 4 were found empty so it is probable that SC-203 attacked first C.B.1 before being missed in return some 26 minutes later.

2. C.B.1 carried out another attack on 15 September 1943 - I assume with the same Italian crew  - on a Soviet "moana", one of three vessels proceeding south of Cape Sarych, the other two appeared to.be escorting gunboats. One torpedo was fired from a range of 1,000 metres but missed. I believe this was the last attack carried out by Italian midget submarines in the Black Sea. Can one provide the identity of three vessels?

Best regards,

Platon
Titel: Re: The final sorties of the Italian CB midget submarines in the Black Sea
Beitrag von: de domenico am 12 Dezember 2020, 18:07:22
Dear Platon,
you are probably talking about  a "Maona", Italian for a lighter, and not a "moana" ....