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Titel: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 28 März 2015, 13:35:08
Meine Beiträge sind hier zu finden,
wenn Bedarf besteht kann ich die auf forum-marinearchive kopieren

http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t2841f66-SMS-Nix-amp-Salamander-Rad-Avisos-2.html
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: TD am 29 März 2015, 11:30:46
das mach doch bitte.

Sonst muss man ich extra eintragen !

Gruß

Theo
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:25:31
Vertrag RM1/2065
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:31:37
The Artizan informiert über sie Schiffe
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:34:18
Wie man sieht, Manchester und S + N haben gleiche Maschinen und Wasserlinien

Wie man findet MANCHESTER hat gleiche Navigationsprobleme wie NIX und SALAMANDER
Das Schwesterschiff wurde wie die preußische Schiffe verlängert.

Manchester   ON7563   iron paddle
L 2.07.1849   Robinson & Russell, Millwall, S10
174nrt/291grt 390bm double end contruction
164.9x22.4x9.6
2 sets oscillating engines 48in (diam) x 4ft6in stroke, 16lb with wave gear, 150nhp by builders
registered 6.10.49 at   Hull   44/49 for Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Rly. Co.
1877   Hull, Steam, Broken up MNL (closures), 1877
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:36:52
MANCHESTER was gebaut nach Wave Principle von JSR
So waren auch N+S
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:38:51
Appletons' Mechanics' Magazine and Engineers' Journal, Band 1 p.313
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:40:04
Langsam kommen wir an die Geschichte von Entwicklung des Konstruktion von N+S

"Schwesterschiff von MANCHESTER"
Sheffield   ON7564   iron   paddle
1849 H.E.Smith , Gainsborough
149/244 143.8 -> 160.8x21.9x9.1   
150   by J & G. Rennie
registered 27.11.50   Hull   for Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Rly. Co.   
served 51 - 69

The Humber Ferries - Seite 44
Alun Albert D'Orley, ‎D'Orley Alun Albert - 1968

A sister ship for the 'Manchester' had been ordered earlier on in 1849. She was named 'Sheffield', was smaller than the 'Manchester' , and cost L5,520. The builder was H.E.Smith of Gainsborough and the engines were supplied by J & G Rennie. After trials, which were considered satisfactory, it was decided that 'Sheffield' should be lengthened by 17 feet, and delivery was not made until 1850. In November 1853, the Government Surveyors decided that the . 'Queen' and the 'Prince of Wales' were no longer fit for the carriage of passengers, so the M.S. & L. had to hire the 'Petrel' from the Watermans Company to keep the service going ..
......
Both 'Manchester' and the 'Sheffield' proved unsuccessful in the operation of the New Hollan Ferry. These iron paddle steamers proved to be difficult to manage and were involved in several collisions. They continued to give constant trouble, and in August 1854, the M.S. & L. bought two smaller iron paddle steamers from M. Samuelson and Company, of Hull, at a cost of £6,725 each. They were former Clyde Steam Packets, and were named 'Manchester' and 'Sheffield', replacing their namesakes on the Humber Ferry in 1855.


MANCHESTER war klassifiziert als Riverine steamer (=Binnenschiff)
so ist in 1858 in Verzeichnis von Dampfschiffen die im Hull sine beheimatet und so in "Liverpool registry 1874/75"

Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:42:40
The Artizan Vol IX 1851 p.72 & p.12
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:44:04
Leider ich habe nicht kopiert in TU Hannover von The Artizan 1851 Plate X die Plänne von N+S

Hier nur die Fragmente scanned by Google (NY Library)
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:50:04
The Artizan 1849 p.224 & 172
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:50:46
NIX und SALAMANDER von Koch
Marine Rundschau 1895

Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:51:30
London Morning Post August 31, 1863
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:52:03
London Morning Post October 13, 1863
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:52:36
London Express December 19, 1862
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:53:20
Official Catalogue of the Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations
London 1851
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 17:15:53
Noch nicht fertig

RECRUIT

British Parlimentary Papers

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1859-60.

Hull-Materials:135
Hull-Workmanship:135
Masts and Yards--
Rigging and Stores:214
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:115
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship: -
Engineers Stores :-
Total: 599

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1860-61.

Hull-Materials:19
Hull-Workmanship:5
Masts and Yards:--
Rigging and Stores:139
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:-
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship: -
Engineers Stores :-
Total: 163

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1861-62.

RENOWN - 89 guns

Hull-Materials:
Hull-Workmanship:
Masts and Yards:
Rigging and Stores:
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship: -
Engineers Stores :-
Total:

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1862-63.

RENOWN - 81 guns

Hull-Materials:19
Hull-Workmanship:4
Masts , Rigging Stores and Engineers Stores:23
Machinery: :-
Total: 55

Annual account of expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1863-84; together with a report thereon from the Accountant General of the Navy, dated 22 July 1864.

RENOWN - 81 guns - 3d Division,  Devenport

Hull-Materials: 303-credit returned
Hull-Workmanship: 26
Masts , Rigging Stores and Engineers Stores:1
Machinery - Materials:
Machinery - Labours: 5

Total: 3
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 17:40:31
Noch nicht fertig

WESER

British Parlimentary Papers

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1859-60.

Hull-Materials:135
Hull-Workmanship:135
Masts and Yards--
Rigging and Stores:214
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:115
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship: -
Engineers Stores :-
Total: 599

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1860-61.

1st Division Woolwich

Hull-Materials:146
Hull-Workmanship:--
Masts and Yards:--
Rigging and Stores:--
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:--
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship:---
Engineers Stores :--
Total: 146

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1861-62.

RENOWN - 89 guns

Hull-Materials:
Hull-Workmanship:
Masts and Yards:
Rigging and Stores:
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Materials:
Repairs to Engines and Boilers-Workmanship: -
Engineers Stores :-
Total:

An account showing the expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1862-63.

RENOWN - 81 guns

Hull-Materials:19
Hull-Workmanship:4
Masts , Rigging Stores and Engineers Stores:23
Machinery: :-
Total: 55

Annual account of expenses incurred on Her Majesty's ships building, converting, repairing, fitting, &c., during the financial year 1863-84; together with a report thereon from the Accountant General of the Navy, dated 22 July 1864.

RENOWN - 81 guns - 3d Division,  Devenport

Hull-Materials: 303-credit returned
Hull-Workmanship: 26
Masts , Rigging Stores and Engineers Stores:1
Machinery - Materials:
Machinery - Labours: 5

Total: 3
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 31 März 2015, 22:37:03
Zitat von: AvM am 30 März 2015, 16:53:20
Official Catalogue of the Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations
London 1851

Ich wollte kurze Bemerkungen zu Modellen

2) Dampfkorvette Danzig
3) Dampffregatte, ein Angebot an Preußen
siehe Stavrinus S.160
4) Segelfregatte, ein Angebot an Preußen
siehe Stavrinus S.160
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 02 April 2015, 18:35:26
SAILING SHIPS OF WAR, 1800-1860, INCLUDING THE TRANSITION TO STEAM.
Moore, Sir Alan.
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 09 April 2015, 23:20:27
Brasilianische Marine

Paraguassu   
R. & H. Green, Blackwall ,#337   
bestellt:02.10.1855      
gebaut:1856

Paraguassu was similar to the German Salamandra class gunboats. She left Plymouth on 01.09.1856 and was officially commissioned on 11.12.1856. Wrecked in heavy weather on 23.06.1861 at Olhas d'Agua off Uruguayan coasts. According to the design she was to carry also 2 x 120 mm bronze guns. In 1860 she was reported with 8 guns.


Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 28 Juli 2020, 12:49:46
The Times   Aug. 31, 1863
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 31 Januar 2021, 21:01:45
Isle of Wight Observer - Saturday 06 January 1855
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 20 Februar 2021, 10:27:31
LLoyd 1878-79
Titel: Re: Rad-Avisos Nix & Salamander
Beitrag von: AvM am 20 Februar 2021, 10:37:41
The Sun 21 Aug 1863