Hi,
Help to find out what it was the German ship
War diary : German Naval Staff Operations Division
CONFIDENTIAL
28 May I942..
Naval barge " lij-9 " had a brush with 2 enemy PT boats during the night of 26 May after leaving Bomba Bay. The barge was unsuccessfully attacked with I4. torpedoes; she sank 1 PT boat by a direct 7»5 cm hit an< 3- the second PT boat was forced to withdraw.
https://archive.org/stream/wardiarygermann331942germ/wardiarygermann331942germ_djvu.txt
MTB-309 and -312, which took part in the battle, were not injured.
cam
hi,
Zitat von: cam am 25 März 2016, 19:03:36
MTB-309 and -312, which took part in the battle, were not injured.
men and animals may be
injured, but lifeless things, among them ships, may be
damaged.
greetings, Urs
It was F 149.
@ HMA-Team: Das fehlt im Lebenslauf F 149. :wink:
Thank you very much!
cam
Hallo zusammen,
das KTB der 2. L-Flottille ist für diesen Zeitraum sehr schwer lesbar. Hier aber meine Interpretation:
Zitat27.05.1942 F 149 auf Marsch el Misrata nach Derna 01.30 Uhr Gefecht mit 2 brit. S-Booten. S-Boote schießen Torpedos, zwei davon gehen unter F 149 durch. Abwehr mit 2cm. Beim Abmarsch wirft ein S-Boot eine Wasserbombe vor F 149, Explodiert 10m vom Achterschiff, u.a. Schraubenbeschädigungen[sehr schwer lesbar]
01.42 Uhr wird das andere S-Boot durch die 7,5cm Kanone unter Feuer genommen und mit dem 11. Schuß durch Volltreffer vernichtet[?]
[unleserlich]
Admirality War Diary:
ZitatMTBs 309 and 312 attacked F-Boats escorted by E-Boats off Bomba at 0300. 1 F-Boat was damaged and possibly sunk.
[...]
MTB 309 and 312 attacked F-boats escorted by E-boats off Bomba at 0300/27. F-boat damaged, possibly sunk. No damage or casualties in MTB´s.
Datensatz (http://www.historisches-marinearchiv.de/projekte/landungsfahrzeuge/marinefaehrprahm/ausgabe.php?where_value=286) ist angepasst.
:MG:
Darius
Zitat von: Darius am 02 April 2016, 19:16:50
das KTB der 2. L-Flottille ist für diesen Zeitraum sehr schwer lesbar. Hier aber meine Interpretation:
Zitat27.05.1942 F 149 auf Marsch el Misrata nach Derna 01.30 Uhr Gefecht mit 2 brit. S-Booten. S-Boote schießen Torpedos, zwei davon gehen unter F 149 durch. Abwehr mit 2cm. Beim Abmarsch wirft ein S-Boot eine Wasserbombe vor F 149, Explodiert 10m vom Achterschiff, u.a. Schraubenbeschädigungen[sehr schwer lesbar]
01.42 Uhr wird das andere S-Boot durch die 7,5cm Kanone unter Feuer genommen und mit dem 11. Schuß durch Volltreffer vernichtet[?]
[unleserlich]
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Thank you, Darius!
cam
Zitat von: Darius am 02 April 2016, 19:16:50
Datensatz (http://www.historisches-marinearchiv.de/projekte/landungsfahrzeuge/marinefaehrprahm/ausgabe.php?where_value=286) ist angepasst.
:MG:
Darius
Vielen Dank. top
Hi,
What kind of a German ship English writing?
Wartime Activities.
22-23/3/43 MTB 265 and MTB 311 depart Bone to conduct an offensive sweep off Plane Island, Tunisia.
0150 Lookouts spot four vessels moving in formation. The senior officer decides that MTB 311 will attack with torpedoes and MTB 265 will cover her with gunfire if required.
0220 MTB 311 approaches, on silent engine, to attack and reaches a point 700yds from the third vessel before firing two torpedoes. The Germans return fire and MTB 311 turns to starboard to disengage. A flak lighteris is sunk, On the return trip to Bone, a mine explodes in the wake of MTB 311.
cam
Es gab einen Konvoi am 22 / 18.30 Uhr von Susa nach Trapani. Es handelte sich im die Dampfer Orsolina Bottiglieri und Skotfoss, begleitet von ital. Zerstörer Antilope und Torpedoboot Cascino. Das Geleitet meldete einen Angriff am 23.3. um 03.00 Uhr von einem einzelnen Flugzeug ("da parte d'un aereo isolato").
Quelle: La difesa del traffico ... Vol. VIII
P.S.
Skotfoss (norw.) ab 1941 Ste Lucille (franz)
Ein Flugzeugangriff mitten in der Nacht ist m.E. eher unwahrscheinlich.
Thank you.
It is not clear what was the route of the convoy. I think the route Sousse - Trapani lay to the east of Cape Bon, and MTB patrolled around Plane Island.
cam
You are right, cam.
Unfortunately I don't find Plane Island.
As you told us that a flak lighter (Flak MFP) was engaged among four vessels, I found the following entry:
4 German landing ferries (motozattere)
from 22.03./13u45 Trapani to Bizerta arriving at 23.03./08u35.
No loss mentioned. Unfortunately the numbers of lighters are not cited.
Yes. The Plane Island is on the way from Trapani to Bizerte. Perhaps this is the convoy that was attacked MTB, but no reports of an attack on the German side, and the British write that were fired.
cam
moin,
Zitat von: cam am 13 April 2016, 21:24:41
The Plane Island is on the way from Trapani to Bizerte.
Genauer gesagt, vor Bizerta
http://www.nomarmiteintunisia.co.uk/tunisiasislands.htm scrollen
Gruß, Urs
Thank you. Helpful information. The names of these islands are often referred to in describing battles off the coast of Tunisia.
Was sunk the night 24/03/1943 in region Bizerte any German ship?
cam
Hi,
War diary : German Naval Staff Operations Division
CONFIDENTIAL
24 Jun* 1944
At 2235 Group West transmitted the following survey of the situation
to all offices of it's area!
1. ... Our patrol forces had a fight with enemy PT boats off Cherbourg and south of Jersey. One of our artillery carriers was hit by a torpedo and sunk. ...
What was the battle? What is the German ship was sunk?
cam
Much of the information you are looking for you can find on our website which can be translated via google.
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Hi,
On the night of July 29/30 1943, PT's again met F-lighters. This time Lt. (jg.) Richard H. O'Brien, in Clifford's PT 204, with Lt. Norman DeVol's PT 217, engaged two F-lighters escorted by four MAS boats, firing six torpedoes and strafing the MAS boats before heavy fire from one of the lighters forced them to retire. The Italian officer commanding the MAS boats in this action was later interviewed in Capri. He said one F-lighter had been sunk and one MAS boat had been so badly damaged that it was abandoned and sunk by the other MAS boats.
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/CloseQuarters/PT-6.html
What MFP was sunk in this battle American PT-boats 15th Squadron north of Sicily??
cam
I guess none.
War diary Marinekommando Italien mentions only fight of some Fährprähme against 3 PT boats and that they sustained only minor damage.
Hi,
Probably and F-lighter that two US destroyers sunk in a battle with the Italian MS-66 and -63 at night 03/08/43 off Cape Kavala, Sicily, was not there?
cam
I don't understand that sentence.
Hi,
What the German MFP was sunk in this battle?
On the night of 3/4 August 1943 USS Gherardi and Rhind were making a night offensive sweep along the coast, when at 22:15, a few miles off Cape Calava, they picked up a small convoy consisting of one of the German MFP lighters escorted by two E-boats. At a range of 4,000 yards (3,700 m), the destroyers illuminated the convoy with star shell and opened up with main batteries. MFP blew up at 22:25 and one of the escorting boats was sunk; the other fired at least one torpedo, which missed.
cam