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Titel: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nils3D am 29 Juni 2011, 20:14:59
Hi

As my german is rusty, I prefer to write you in english. I have some photos og KM ships in the years just befor the Great War, from the Kaiser's summer travels to Norway. I think most pictures are from about 1910, but there might some older too. In between there's also a british Dreadnought (I believe it's the HMS 'Bellerophone') and some old cruise liners, both british and german. Then there's also an image of what I believe is KdF 'Wilhelm Gustloff' or KdF 'Robert Ley'
If some of you are able to identify some of the ships' I'd be grateful. I have an idea for some of them myself, but I'm not 100% sure. I think SMS 'Mecklenburg' and also SMS 'Schwaben' too, also some Wittelsbach class ships is there..
Anyway enjoy the photos from a beautiful lost time. Forgot to mention, all photos are from  - Ulvik in hardanger, and surrounding waters.
Please follow this link to my Photobucket online photo album

http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/nils_011/Kaiserliche%20Flotte%20-%20photos/?albumview=slideshow
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Teddy Suhren am 29 Juni 2011, 20:41:54
Hai

#79 is Wilhelm Gustloff. Robert Ley's Mast position is different.
It's a bit difficult to set a Number to each picture.
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nils3D am 29 Juni 2011, 21:37:26
Teddy thanks, yeah I suspected it was the Gustloff.
I see the 'Ley' has a bigger superstructure between the bridgework and funnel than the 'Gustloff'..

I've edited the slideshow so the numbers now should show.
Thanks for telling me..
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: kgvm am 30 Juni 2011, 09:45:12
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/nils_011/Kaiserliche%20Flotte%20-%20photos/wa0345.jpg?t=1309375874
looks like a Swedish railway ferry, either "Drottning Victoria" or "Konung Gustav V".
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/nils_011/Kaiserliche%20Flotte%20-%20photos/wa0551.jpg?t=1309375850
is the Norwegian "Kristianafjord":
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20K/slides/Kristianiafjord-02.jpg
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nauarchus am 30 Juni 2011, 11:44:54
Hi!

wa1998 / wa2070 / HFU-Wa-2558
Schlachtschiff (Battleship) BELLEROPHON-Klasse (BELLEROPHON, SUPERB oder TEMERAIRE)
Auf allen 3 Bildern (wahrscheinlich) das selbe Schiff.

wa2020 / HFU-Wa-2505 / HFU-Wa-2527
Schlachtschiff/Linienschiff NASSAU-Klasse (NASSAU, POSEN, WESTPHALEN oder RHEINLAND)
Auf allen 3 Bildern (wahrscheinlich) das selbe Schiff.

Gruß Nauarchus  :-)
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nils3D am 30 Juni 2011, 12:10:48
Thanks Nauarchus and kgvm, that's a few more bits of the puzzle solved :)
I later also found and image of the Hapag Lloyd liner 'St Louis' among my photos.
I believe that the the two ships on wa0188 is the 'SMS Braunschweig and 'SMS Elsass'

I've attached the image of 'St Louis'

Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nauarchus am 30 Juni 2011, 12:23:45
Hi Nils!

wa0188
Möglich, aber nicht zu 100 %. Aber definitiv BRAUNSCHWEIG-Klasse.

Gruß Nauarchus  :-)
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: schiffbauer am 30 Juni 2011, 12:54:49
Hi,

wa 2367   Mecklenburg
wa 2119   Mecklenburg
wa 2080   Mecklenburg   (foreground)
wa 2020   Posen
wa 1971   Mecklenburg (left) and Zähringen (right)
wa 1901   Zähringen
wa 0589 and wa 0193  Nassau Class (presumably one of them Posen)
wa0188    both Braunschweig Class
wa0129    Mecklenburg
wa 0045   Prins Olav (former british Royal Yacht Alexandra)
wa 2620   Mecklenburg
wa 2527   Posen
wa 2505   Posen

Regards
Schiffbauer
Titel: Re: Kaiserliche Marine - Need help to identify ships
Beitrag von: Nils3D am 30 Juni 2011, 19:59:50
Schiffbauer, thanks a lot for your very helpful comments!
BTW I can tell that the liner at wa1620 is possible the Orient Line ship 'SS Orama', sunk in 1940 by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, during operation Juno