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Titel: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: TD am 09 Mai 2012, 22:30:08


Diese Zeile fand ich eben beim zusammenstellen neuer belgischer Kleinschiffe.

Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.

Vielleicht können unsere finnischen Mitglieder noch etwas dazu schreiben ?

Dank und Gruss

Theo
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: kgvm am 11 Mai 2012, 22:07:17
Einer der Trawler, 1938 in Ostende gebaut, lief noch bis mindestens 1965 als "Tursas" für fie finnische Küstenwache. Ex-Namen habe ich leider nicht gefunden.
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: jja60 am 12 Mai 2012, 07:30:56
The trawlers Baltic and Celtic were purchased by Finnish Government in 1939 and they were handed to the Coast Guard. The Coast Guard (in Finnish Merivartiolaitos) was under the Ministry of Internal Affairs, also not a part of the military forces. In 1945 the Coast Guard became part of Border Guard. During the wars the Coast Guard vessels and personnel were incorporated in the Navy. After the war Coast Guard returned to its normal border watch, customs and search and rescue duty.

The ships arrived in Helsinki 14.6.1939. In July 1939 the ships moved to city of Uusikaupunki for changes. I do not have the exact day the raised the Finnish flag, but I assume that it has happened in Belgium (possibly Oostende). The Baltic became Tursas and Celtic became Uisko.

The Uisko was sunk 16.9.1943. A low-flying IL-4 torpedo plane surprised escort vessels Uisko and Tursas north from Keri lighthouse in Gulf of Finland. Uisko was hit with the loss of 18 men, including commander, Lt Sandholm. Only two men survived, cook and steward. The wreck was located by an Estonian search team in 2004 and the bow of the vessel was found to be totally destroyed.

The Tursas returned to Border Guard and was in active service till 1974. Thereafter it was used as an accommodation vessel. In 1985 it was auctioned and sold to Sweden. In Sweden it sailed under name Holmia. In 1996 it was registered to Belize but sailed around Kap Verde. In 1997 it was bought by Norwegian company Polnes A/S and named Polnes. The purpose was to use it for seal hunting. However, the engines were worn out. The ownership changed, the ship became a fishing vessel SF-349-S and it was stricken from vessel lists in 2002.

My source is T. Paasi, Uisko ja Tursas sodan ja rauhan tehtävissä (Uudenkaupungin merihistoriallisen yhdistyksen vuosikirja, Uusikaupunki, 2008). The title translates as "Uisko and Tursas in tasks of war and peace". The publication is Yearbook of Uusikaupunki Maritime History Society in 2008.
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: maurice voss am 12 Mai 2012, 08:22:57
Hallo,


Hier wass ich darüber habe.
mfG
Maurice

O 118 BALTIC                        
                        
218,91 grt blt 1938 J. Boel & Fils, Temse (944)                        
183 under deck  69,26 n                        
40,50 x 7 x 4 m  (121.4 x 23.4 x 11.8 ft )                         
Oil 4 SA 6 cyl 14 3/4"-22" Carels engine 650 HP 130 NHP at 275 rpm by Société d'Electricité et de Mécanique                         
(Thomson-Houston & Carels), Ghent  12,50-13 kn                        
cruiser stern                        
38-39 BALTIC O 118         Rederij Aug. Brunet,      Ostend     Be/      
8.6.1939 sold to the Finnish Gvt (homeport: Helsingfors) together with CELTIC for a total of 5.500.000 BF                        
Brought to Finland 14.6.1939 and rebuilt/modified for the Finnish Coast Guard                        
Renamed TURSAS (names came from gods or spirits of the water in the Finnish mythology)                        
Taken over by the Navy in the beginning of the Winter war 30.11.1939                        
Mostly retaining his original crew, he was used as escort vessel, escorting convoys to and from                        
Swedish waters until the ice conditions becametoo hard in February 1940                        
During the interwar period 1940, back on patrol duties                        
During the Continuation war 1941-44 was used again in escort service but was used also in active submarine                        
hunting in the Gulf of Finland                        
16.9.1943 TURSAS and UISKO (ex CELTIC) were listening for submarines (engines stopped) when Soviet                        
torpedobombers surprised the units.                         
TURSAS got her engines running but UISKO couldn't start fast enough and was hit by torpedo and only one                        
man was saved.                        
TURSAS was returned to the Coast Guard after the end of the war and served until 1970's                        
Was rebuilt in the 1950's                        
Janes 1955/56: 360 tons displacement                        
131 1/4 x 23 1/2 x 14 ft                        
2-20 AA                        
Coast Guard patrol vessel (Vartioalukset)                        
Janes 1969/70: 400 tons displacement                        
1-3 in, 1-40 mm AA, 2-20 mm AA                        
Flottes de Combat 1970: 360 tW  40 x 7 x 4,40 m                        
1-20 AA  diesel  1 screw blt Crichton-Vulkan                        
Ice breaking bow 1952                        
Major refit 1959 (reconstruction of the stern, new deckhouses, new engine).                        
Later in the 1970's was used as stationed accomodation vessel                        
Was sold in the end of the 70's or beginning 80's.                        
Janes: deleted 1975                        
Ended up to Sweden and later to Norway where she was scrapped                        
                        
O 119 CELTIC                        
                        
see O 118 BALTIC                        
yard 946                        
Oil 4 SA 6 cyl 14 1/2"-22 3/4" Deutz 575 HP by Humboldt-Deutzmotoren AG, Köln-Deutz                        
38-39 CELTIC O 119         Rederij Aug. Brunet,      Ostend   Be/      
39-43 UISKO                  Fi/      
16.9.1943 lost Soviet torpedobombers                        
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: maurice voss am 12 Mai 2012, 08:28:43
Hier einige Photos:
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: maurice voss am 12 Mai 2012, 08:30:16
BALTIC as TURSAS
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: kgvm am 12 Mai 2012, 10:43:28
Danke, Maurice.
Ist das Absicht, daß beide Fotos als "Baltic" identisch sind??
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: maurice voss am 12 Mai 2012, 11:20:01
Hallo Klaus Günther,


Per Irrtum 2 x geschickt !
mfG
Maurice
Titel: Re: Belgian trawlers Celtic and Baltic became Finnish Coast Guard Vessels.
Beitrag von: kgvm am 12 Mai 2012, 21:03:28
Na ja, besser doppelt als gar nicht  :-)