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Titel: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 16 Oktober 2015, 13:57:26
I came across a pic of an MFP (F 82) in a lock together with "Dornbusch". Unfortunately the first digit of the number is missing in the pic, could this be F 182 ? Use search word "Dornbusch":

http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/result.jsp?action=showpage&page=1

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Karsten am 16 Oktober 2015, 14:37:20
Yes, F 182 from Flakschule Harderwjik. To be identified by the "wall" on t op of the roof of the hold.
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 16 Oktober 2015, 15:34:23
Thanks Karsten, in the mean time I have found an old thread in which this unit is also mentioned. Apparently F 280, F 284, F 298, F 299, F 390 and F 391 also belonged to Artillerie-und Flakkompanie Harderwijk at some point :

http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php?topic=24658.0

Is there any further info about this unit? I seem to remember that there was also a connection between a  Hermann Göring Flak unit and Harderwijk (perhaps the years have affected my brain  :-)).

edit: probably no real connection between HG and Harderwijk, this HG member stayed in some barracks there for some time :

http://www.franzluerbke.de/42182/42618.html

Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Karsten am 16 Oktober 2015, 16:15:06
Have a look at the photo here http://www.historisches-marinearchiv.de/projekte/landungsfahrzeuge/marinefaehrprahm/ausgabe.php?where_value=314

The same wall ...
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 16 Oktober 2015, 16:33:39
Thanks a lot Karsten, I hadn't seen these pics. Apparently the last digit of the vessel number is repeated on the superstructure walls ("2" of F 182 and "7" of F 187). I will try to find some more info, I'm sure I have some pics of 8.8cm Flak in Harderwijk in my files.

Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Karsten am 16 Oktober 2015, 16:56:19
Zitat von: Arjan am 16 Oktober 2015, 16:33:39Apparently the last digit of the vessel number is repeated on the superstructure walls ("2" of F 182 and "7" of F 187.
Arjan, I agree. That was my thougt, too.
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 17 Oktober 2015, 10:50:56
Apparently units of all army service branches were located at Harderwijk at some point (Heer, Waffen-SS, Luftwaffe (also HG) and Kriegsmarine). This concerns the Kriegsmarine presence :

DE KRIEGSMARINE
Na de legering van enkele Luftwaffe eenheden
kreeg de Oranje Nassau Kazerne, de "Alte
Kaserne", al spoedig een bezetting van de
Kriegsmarine. Een deel van de militairen behoorde
tot het varende gedeelte waarvan de
schepen en landingsvaartuigen in de haven
van Harderwijk lagen. Het andere deel van
het personeel behoorde tot de "Artillerie
und Flak Kompanie (M)" die de opleiding
voor scheeps-FLAK verzorgde. De opslag
van het 8.8. cm geschut en de oefengelegenheid
van deze eenheid bevonden zich op
Kranenburg Noord. De compagnie verplaatste
op 18 september 1944 richting Oosterbeek
om daar ingezet te worden en keerde
daarna niet meer terug naar Harderwijk.

In the above it is also mentioned that the boats and landing craft of this unit were stationed in the harbour of Harderwijk. Source :

http://www.vovklict.nl/intercom/2005/4/Schietbaan_Horst.pdf

Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 18 Oktober 2015, 14:08:36
Apparently MFP's were also built in Enkhuizen and this seems to have been the reason for an RAF raid on the harbour. Nice colourized pic here of an MFP, I hope that google is able to translate the Dutch text :

http://enkhuizercourant.kroniekvanenkhuizen.nl/kroniek-van-enkhuizen-periode-1940-1950?itemID=123

By the way, here is a photo of what I think is a schwere Sturmboot 42 (Wasserschutzpolizei also at Enkhuizen):

http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/enkhuizen/enkhuizen.htm

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Arjan am 26 November 2015, 12:44:15
Today I discovered there is another photo of MFP 182 in the Beeldbankwo2 (image number 122688). Location is Tjerk Hiddesluis in Harlingen :

http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/detail.jsp?action=detail&recordidx=1

So this probably means that image number 118506 was probably taken at the same lock.

Arjan
Titel: Re: MFP 182 ?
Beitrag von: Darius am 27 November 2015, 23:05:29
Hallo Arjan,

vielen Dank für dieses ergänzende Puzzle.

:MG:

Darius