HI
I have a small project trying to complete Weserübung in 1250 scale models...
(estimated time of completion 2035)
So far I got most of KM's warships,what I could find of the Norwegians and Danes,
a bunch of RN and one French destroyer and a couple of Allied merchants.
As I have a special interest in the supply part of Weserübung I have a pretty high priority on the German merchants.
As far as I know, have the following German ships not been made as 1250 models,
it might be me looking in the wrong direction.
If I could have some advice if the following ships have been made and by whom,
I would apreciate the effort.
(Not to mention if anyone got one of these for sale...)
| Name | tons(?) | Jahre | Reederei |
| Sao Paolo | 5000 | 1921 | Hamburg-Süd |
| Main | 7600 | 1927 | NDL |
| Dollart | 535 | 1934 | John T. Essberger, Hamburg |
| Belt | 322 | 1936 | John T. Essberger |
| Euroland | 860 | 1916 | Europäische Tankreederei, Hamburg |
| Antares | 2600 | 1937 | Argo Reederei (Richard Adler), Bremen |
| Jonia | 3100 | | | ?? | |
| Muansa | 5500 | 1911 | Deutsche Afrika-Linien, Hamburg |
| Wigand | 5900 | 1922 | Norddeutscher Lloyd, Bremen. |
| Westsee | 5900 | 1914 | W. Schuchmann, Hamburg |
| August Leonhard | 2500 | 1922 | Leonhardt & Blumberg, Hamburg |
| Tijuca | 5900 | 1923 | Hamburg-Süd | ex- Ludwigshafen |
| Curityba | 5000 | 1923 | Hamburg-Süd | ex HOLSTEIN |
| Friedenau | 5200 | 1920 | Bugsier Reederei & Bergungs A.G., Hamburg |
| Hamm | 5900 | 1921 | HAPAG |
| Wandsbek | 2400 | 1938 | Knöhr & Burchard, Hamburg |
| Scharhörn | 2600 | 1927 | Aschpurwis & Co., Hamburg |
| Cordoba | | 1919 | Hamburg-Süd | Other names: [LD as WAR SABLE] - 29 LISA - 29 TAUNUS - 37 CORDOBA |
| Köln | | 1922 | NDL |
| Dessau | 5933 | 1923 | NDL | ex WIDO |
Zitat von: JohnT am 14 Juli 2008, 16:10:34
I have a small project ...
estimated time of completion 2035...
I am wondering how for you a BIG project would look like... :-D
By a short general view I see the small tanker "Belt" from which a HAMMONIA-model had been made; moreover: Do you checked out all sisterships for your search?
Nachtrag: A good search-tool for your ambition is ...
http://www.galerie-maritim.de/cgi-bin/Adaptor/none/www.galerie-maritim.net/70003/NavyTOC
Best wishes
OWZ
Zitat von: OWZ am 14 Juli 2008, 16:37:44
By a short general view I see the small tanker "Belt" from which a HAMMONIA-model had been made; moreover: Do you checked out all sisterships for your search?
Nachtrag: A good search-tool for your ambition is ...
http://www.galerie-maritim.de/cgi-bin/Adaptor/none/www.galerie-maritim.net/70003/NavyTOC
Best wishes
OWZ
Thank you,
Gallerie Maritim's list as PDF is one of my main sources,
in conjunction with miramar ship index ( http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/list )
Got Ham 32 as Moonsund but did somehow missed that Belt was a sister.
I have tried to find sisterships and different names and this is what is left.
(Should show the ones I did find too for quality assurance)
Cheers
/John T.
Zitat von: JohnT am 14 Juli 2008, 20:04:17
(Should show the ones I did find too for quality assurance)
| Ship name | tons | producer |
| Rugard | | H2O 15, Welfia 019 |
| Bärenfels | 7600 | CM-76 MARIENFELS (II) |
| Rauenfels | 8500 | CM-75 RAUENFELS (II) --HM 134 WACHTFELS (II) |
| Alster | 8500 | CM-64 Alster |
| Levante | 4800 | M564 Cairo Blev sedan HK6 Steir |
| Roda | 6800 | M541 Rhakotis |
| Jan Wellem | 12 000 | Mercator 527 |
| Kattegatt | 6000 | Mercator 594 |
| Skagerrak | 6000 | Mercator 594 |
| Senator | 845 | RU 15 SENATOR (Motortanker,LW) AO D 1902 1940 |
| Belt | 322 | HAM 32 MOONSUND TAK D 1937 0 Hammonia |
| Stedingen | ¨ 8000 | Argos Ossag COL - 17 |
| Moonsund | 322 | HAM 32 MOONSUND TAK D 1937 0 Hammonia |
| Itauri | 6800 | CM-37 Itauri |
| Neidenfels | 7800 | M586 - Goldenfels Wiking Hohenfelds, -- Atlantis (HSK 2) Neptun |
| Kreta | 2400 | HAM 13 KRETA FR D 1923 |
| Tubingen | 5500 | York 104 |
| Mendoza | 5200 | FD 195a MENDOZA (II) ex MOUNT IDA ex BALLENA FR D 1920 1939 |
| Marie Leonhard | 2600 | GS model 48 marie Leonard |
| Curityba | 5000 | ex HOLSTEIN |
| Rio de Janeiro | 5300 | CM 098 Rio de Janeiro |
| Kellerwald | 5000 | CMP 26 M437 Kellerwald |
| Wigbert | 3600 | RU 36 Wigbert MaRu MaRu AK 1940 D 42,60 |
| Espana | 7500 | M504 Espana |
| Rosario | 6100 | HM 108 ROSARIO (III) ex WITELL (III) ex BAKARA FR D 1937 1913 |
| Tucuman | 4600 | PO 29 TUCUMAN ex EIFEL ex DORIS FR D 1937 1918 |
| Hanau | 5900 | HM 39 HANAU AK D 1943 1921 |
| Wolfram | 3600 | Yorck 103 WOLFRAM FR D 0 1921 |
| Moltkefels | | HY 58 GOLDENFELS (III) FR D 0 1938 HY 58a MOLTKEFELS (II) (Tarnanstrich) AK D 1945 1940 |
| Entreriros | | CMP-13, CM-96 |
| Buenos Aires | | CM 280 BUENOS AIRES (III) PAF D 0 1912 |
| Leuna | | M573 Leuna |
| Campinas | | PO 56 CAMPINAS ex WESTERWALD |
I really like this table function on this board :ML:
Cheers
/John T.
Hej John
MOONSUND is a sister of BELT. Both ships are build by Werft Nobiskrug GmbH, Rendsburg. BELT in 1936, MOONSUND in 1937. Are you sure that BELT has been a part of "WESERÜBUNG"?
Best wishes,
kiekut
According to Lochner "Als das Eis brach" Belt was part of the Bergen group and left Brunsbüttel on April 9th.
@ John:
The "Buenos Aires" built 1912 (9100 BRT)/CM 280 in your list is not the correct one. Better is "Buenos Aires" built 1911 (6100 BRT) - sister of "Rosario". I would take a CM-"Patagonia" /CM 097 (changing some details).
The 1912-Buenos Aires went with the treaty of Versailles to France (or so) and remained there.
Best wishes
OWZ
Zitat von: OWZ am 15 Juli 2008, 17:27:03
@ John:
The "Buenos Aires" built 1912 (9100 BRT)/CM 280 in your list is not the correct one. Better is "Buenos Aires" built 1911 (6100 BRT) - sister of "Rosario". I would take a CM-"Patagonia" /CM 097 (changing some details).
The 1912-Buenos Aires went with the treaty of Versailles to France (or so) and remained there.
Best wishes
OWZ
:MG:
Nice, as Patagonia is shown as in production by Wiedling, I think it's easier get hold of her than an old HM.
I'm always impressed by "Bootologischer", their ability to sort things out out of an ocean of facts, the number of ships and their dussin of names and owners each and then you can identify them on looks too. :-o
Many thanks
/John T.
Hello again
Here's a graphical status report:
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Hi there
an excellent fleet with very nice models - congratulation top
best regards from Costa Rica
Hans
Had a problem to send pic's in PM
So I put them here.
CM 098 Rio de Janeiro
Cheers
/John T.
Thank you John - very interesting pictures! Is this your own work or there is a model of RdJ?!
Zitat von: crolick am 17 Januar 2010, 20:28:53
Thank you John - very interesting pictures! Is this your own work or there is a model of RdJ?!
Rio de Jaineiro from Carlos Marquardt http://www.cm-miniaturen.de/
Warning - turn down the speaker volume before entering his site ;)
Cheers
/John T.
I am always amazed what can be done in such a tiny scale- incredible top top
Zitat von: JohnT am 14 Juli 2008, 16:10:34
HI
I have a small project trying to complete Weserübung in 1250 scale models...
(estimated time of completion 2035)
Four year later, still 22 years to go. :O/Y
But you are still in the game. Great!! :TU:)
hallo JohnT , sehe erst jetzt Deine Sammlung von "zivilen" Schiffe dieses Unternehmens. Großartig ! Alleine das Recherchieren ist schon eine interessante Arbeit. Weiterhin viel Erfolg wünscht der Hastei
Zitat von: t-geronimo am 14 Juli 2008, 16:24:06Zitat von: JohnT am 14 Juli 2008, 16:10:34I have a small project ...
estimated time of completion 2035...
I am wondering how for you a BIG project would look like... :-D
Weser1b.jpg
Slowly getting a bit further.
Thanks to Shapeways I almost completed the Danish, Norwegian and Swedish airforces.
the middle plastic boxes.
As well as the German submarines in one sprue (lower right)
(Sorry, Couldn't help to include the Swedes)
Cheers
/John
One can easily see, time is on your side top .
Greetings OWZ
Very impressive collection! :TU:)
Do you have already all Danish ships, e.g. Niels Juel? If yes, from which producer (or designer in case of Shapeways)?
Zitat von: maxim am 04 September 2024, 12:12:42Very impressive collection! :TU:)
Do you have already all Danish ships, e.g. Niels Juel? If yes, from which producer (or designer in case of Shapeways)?
Dannebrogen by Albatross,
Niels Juel (Hai 255)
Peder Skram (shapeways, COB Constructs and Miniatures)
And Laxen ( Hai 71)
Alas I haven't found any of the submarines yet.
But SNAFU at shapeways did Army and Navy airforces.
hi, John
absolutely admirable :MG: top :TU:) ... especially the German "Groups" display :TU:)
greetings, Urs