How was UJ 2206 sunk?

Begonnen von cam, 15 März 2021, 11:47:41

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cam

Hello,
Colleagues,
Various sources say that UJ 2206 Saint Martin Legasse was sunk by an American PT-212 torpedo on  2 or 3 November 1943 off the island of Giglio.
https://wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?148663
http://books.stonebooks.com/wardiary/19431102/

3.11.1943
Mittelmeer
Vor Porto Santo Stefano wird UJ 2206 / Saint Martin Legasse (Oblt.zS Becker) от US Schnellboot PT 212 versenkt.

https://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/43-11.htm

But the American description of the battle indicated that the PT-212 was not there!

On the night of November 2/3, Lieutenant O'Brien, patrolling in Lt. (jg.) Page Tulloch's PT 211, with Lt. (jg.) Frederick W. Rosen's PT 207, attacked a ship initially identified as a tanker, which he estimated at 4,000 tons, escorted by three E- or R-boats, off the north shore of Giglio Island. The 211 fired four torpedoes and the 207 two, all within 450 yards. "As the last torpedoes were fired," the action report said, "fire was opened by the tanker with one major caliber gun and several machine guns. Shortly after, the escort opened fire with 40mm. and 20mm. and the division increased speed to maximum and laid smoke . . .

"As speed was increased, one torpedo hit was observed at the tanker's bow. A few seconds later another hit amidships which caused an explosion. This was quickly followed by another which precipitated a violent explosion sending flames 150 feet into the air. The entire superstructure of the tanker was thrown bodily into the air and it sank within a few seconds. The explosion was of such force that the PT's were severely shaken at 800 yards. The escort ceased firing at this time." German records reveal that the "tanker" was actually Submarine Chaser 2206.

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/CloseQuarters/PT-6.html

Please help me find out the details of this battle, the time and composition of the German unit.

cam

TW

Rohwers Quelle ist Gröner Band 8, S.318
Schönen Gruß aus Stuttgart
Thomas

cam

But from the American description it is obvious that Gröner was mistaken and his mistake was repeated by all those who refer to him. Possibly confused with another event - 22 October PT-206, PT 212 and PT 216 torpedo and sink the German auxiliary minelayer Juminda 2 nautical miles west of San Stefano.
Therefore, I want, as far as possible, to reconstruct the picture of this battle.

t-geronimo

Deutsche Version laut Gefechtsbericht UJ 2206:

UJ 2206 und R 162 werden um 01:24 überraschend von drei Schnellbooten angegriffen. UJ 2206 wird von zwei Torpedos getroffen und sinkt sehr schnell. Das mittlere Schnellboot wurde in Brand geschossen.
Gruß, Thorsten

"There is every possibility that things are going to change completely."
(Captain Tennant, HMS Repulse, 09.12.1941)

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cam

Thorsten, many thanks!  top top top
Another question - where were the German ships going?

t-geronimo

From Civitavecchia to Piombino.
Gruß, Thorsten

"There is every possibility that things are going to change completely."
(Captain Tennant, HMS Repulse, 09.12.1941)

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cam


Darius

Hallo zusammen,

a) das Gefecht vom 02./03.11.1943 wird auch von unserem Forumsmitglied in seinem Buch "U-Boot-Jagd im Mittelmeer - Der Einsatz der 22. U-Jagdflottille" auf S. 92f beschrieben. Auch dort wird auf PT 207, PT 211 und PT 212 referenziert.

b) Action Report No. 17 (Sinking of a tanker south of Elba), of the MTB Squadron 15, gives PT 207 and PT 211 as attackers. No 3rd PT in company.


:MG:

Darius

cam

Thanks Darius.  :TU:)
This is very useful information.

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