Schnellboote

Begonnen von joern, 18 September 2012, 09:15:54

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Arjan

Currently on Ebay some pics of two Schnellboote in Harlingen (Holland). Year seems to be 1944, the boat that has a damaged stern appears to have a 4cm Bofors. No doubt Ola can provide more info.

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?item=227332131764&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l170197&_ssn=bobbau-militaria

Arjan

Urs Heßling

hi,

Zitat von: Arjan am 29 Mai 2026, 10:43:54Year seems to be 1944, the boat that has a damaged stern
Why should this photo be taken in1944, and where do you see a damaged stern ?

greetings, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

kielwasser

Moin Urs,

hier mal die Links zu den zwei Fotos "mit ohne Heck" die ich finden konnte:
Bild 1
Bild 2

Gruß Tino

Arjan

Hallo Urs,

If I'm not mistaken there is only one photo that has a date on it. So this is no hard evidence but I think that the boat with the damaged stern is a late S-100 boat judging from the round vent stacks (see red arrows). The other boat has the square stacks of S-38 type boats.



That the stern is damaged and that the complete transom appears to be missing seems clear to me (yellow arrows). I used a green arrow to indicate the 4cm Bofors gun (the other pic shows it more clearly) :



Gruss,

Arjan



Urs Heßling

hi, Arjan,

yes, I See.  I was looking at another pic titled "Harlingen"

greetings, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

Kreon

#2120
Hello Guys,
I have some guestions about this picture.

I had always assumed that the *Schnellboot* "Hannibal" from the training flotilla was an S-151 type—essentially an S-38 class vessel, but a few meters shorter. However, it is generally known that the S-151 class could not mount a bow gun precisely because of its smaller dimensions. I would therefore like to ask if the vessel in the picture is actually a standard S-38 class boat; if so, could you provide the number of this specific *Schnellboot*? My second question concerns the weapon at the stern: is it a Bofors (it seems too small for Bofors) or just next single flak 20mm? The gun shield looks somewhat atypical for a Bofors; it most closely resembles the shield used on the twin 20mm Flak 28. Thank you for your help.


Kreon

I have one more picture—here is the S-76 (S-38 class), also from a training photo. Once again, the weaponry caught my eye. On the bow, only an empty mount is visible, with the cover removed. As for the weapon at the stern, it really looks to me like the shield for a twin 20mm Flak 28; however, I am not aware of this weapon—commonly installed amidships on the S-100 class—ever being mounted at the stern. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


Urs Heßling

moin,
Zitat von: Kreon am 23 Juli 2026, 11:58:58I have one more picture—here is the S-76 (S-38 class), also from a training photo.
That picture shows S 76 (no hyphen!) after Germany's surrender in May, 1945, as a war booty, hence the messing weapons

greetings, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

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