Schiffsentwürfe

[Lutscha]

Spee, das bringt mit 4 Geschützen aber nicht so viel, zumal der Panzer für richtige Schlachtschiffe zu dünn ist. (ausser mein deck armour ^^)

Hier mal auf die Schnelle ein Panzerschiff mit 20k un 31kn

Fehlkonstruktion, Deutschland, Panzerschiff laid down 1935

Displacement:
   19.298 t light; 20.083 t standard; 24.500 t normal; 28.034 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721,78 ft / 721,78 ft x 78,74 ft (Bulges 83,66 ft) x 25,59 ft (normal load)
   220,00 m / 220,00 m x 24,00 m (Bulges 25,50 m)  x 7,80 m

Armament:
     6 - 11,02" / 280 mm guns (2x3 guns), 727,53lbs / 330,00kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     8 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets
     on side, all amidships
     12 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns (6x2 guns), 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, all amidships
     12 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     12 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5.634 lbs / 2.556 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 90
   8 - 20,1" / 510 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   407,22 ft / 124,12 m   10,66 ft / 3,25 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2,76" / 70 mm   407,58 ft / 124,23 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 87% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   407,22 ft / 124,12 m   22,47 ft / 6,85 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   1,97" / 50 mm   1,18" / 30 mm            -
   3rd:   0,79" / 20 mm   0,39" / 10 mm            -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3,94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 109.083 shp / 81.376 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 15.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 7.951 tons

Complement:
   978 - 1.272

Cost:
   £8,474 million / $33,896 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 661 tons, 2,7%
   Armour: 6.328 tons, 25,8%
      - Belts: 1.713 tons, 7,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 667 tons, 2,7%
      - Armament: 819 tons, 3,3%
      - Armour Deck: 3.022 tons, 12,3%
      - Conning Tower: 107 tons, 0,4%
   Machinery: 3.099 tons, 12,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8.611 tons, 35,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.202 tons, 21,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 2,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     42.962 lbs / 19.487 Kg = 64,1 x 11,0 " / 280 mm shells or 6,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29
   Metacentric height 5,5 ft / 1,7 m
   Roll period: 15,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,63 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      21,33 ft / 6,50 m (19,69 ft / 6,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,29 ft / 6,49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,8%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153,3%
   Waterplane Area: 41.488 Square feet or 3.854 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 133%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 687 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,14
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

[Lutscha]

Hier nochmal mein Entwurf mit 38ern. Leider mussten 2,5cm Deckpanzerung wech.

Goeben, Deutschland Schlachtkreuzer laid down 1935

Displacement:
   23.992 t light; 25.002 t standard; 29.982 t normal; 33.966 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   732,98 ft / 721,78 ft x 82,02 ft (Bulges 89,73 ft) x 27,89 ft (normal load)
   223,41 m / 220,00 m x 25,00 m (Bulges 27,35 m)  x 8,50 m

Armament:
     4 - 14,96" / 380 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.763,70lbs / 800,00kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     20 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (10x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,03kg shells, 1935 Model
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
     32 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (16x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     48 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (12x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8.396 lbs / 3.808 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 85
   8 - 20,1" / 510 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,65" / 245 mm   426,64 ft / 130,04 m   10,86 ft / 3,31 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 91% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   426,64 ft / 130,04 m   24,21 ft / 7,38 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10,2" / 260 mm   6,69" / 170 mm      6,69" / 170 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,79" / 20 mm            -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 4,92" / 125 mm, Conning tower: 7,87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 133.032 shp / 99.242 Kw = 31,50 kts
   Range 15.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.964 tons

Complement:
   1.139 - 1.481

Cost:
   £11,265 million / $45,061 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.005 tons, 3,4%
   Armour: 7.864 tons, 26,2%
      - Belts: 1.920 tons, 6,4%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 752 tons, 2,5%
      - Armament: 993 tons, 3,3%
      - Armour Deck: 4.034 tons, 13,5%
      - Conning Tower: 164 tons, 0,5%
   Machinery: 3.779 tons, 12,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10.743 tons, 35,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.990 tons, 20,0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 2,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     49.938 lbs / 22.652 Kg = 29,8 x 15,0 " / 380 mm shells or 7,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25
   Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
   Roll period: 16,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,17

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,581
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,04 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,92 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   26,25 ft / 8,00 m (24,93 ft / 7,60 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   18,04 ft / 5,50 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   24,51 ft / 7,47 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169,9%
   Waterplane Area: 44.313 Square feet or 4.117 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 159 lbs/sq ft or 775 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,43
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

[Spee]

@Huszar,

nicht soviele Details am Anfang. Nehmt das, was das Programm vorgibt.
Wenn das Programm 12 Torpedorohre akzeptiert, dann ist das ok.

Entwickelt erst einmal ein gutes, seefähiges Schiff. Vollstopfen kann man Schiffe mit allen möglichen Dingen, nur was nützt das, wenn ab Seegang 3 der Waffeneinsatz nicht mehr möglich ist?

[Lutscha]

Hier mal der 17500 Tonnen Kreuzer und nun mach ich nen 45k (1937)Schlachtschiff.

Admiral Klopper, Deutschland Schwerer Kreuzer laid down 1935

Displacement:
   16.896 t light; 17.500 t standard; 20.160 t normal; 22.288 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721,78 ft / 721,78 ft x 72,18 ft (Bulges 77,10 ft) x 25,59 ft (normal load)
   220,00 m / 220,00 m x 22,00 m (Bulges 23,50 m)  x 7,80 m

Armament:
     9 - 7,99" / 203 mm guns (3x3 guns), 255,24lbs / 115,78kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
     16 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (8x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
     24 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     32 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3.366 lbs / 1.527 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   12 - 20,1" / 510 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   442,82 ft / 134,97 m   10,20 ft / 3,11 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 94% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   442,82 ft / 134,97 m   23,33 ft / 7,11 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      5,91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,79" / 20 mm            -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3,94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 105.995 shp / 79.073 Kw = 32,00 kts
   Range 15.000nm at 15,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.789 tons

Complement:
   845 - 1.099

Cost:
   £6,956 million / $27,824 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 421 tons, 2,1%
   Armour: 5.563 tons, 27,6%
      - Belts: 1.344 tons, 6,7%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 752 tons, 3,7%
      - Armament: 754 tons, 3,7%
      - Armour Deck: 2.618 tons, 13,0%
      - Conning Tower: 94 tons, 0,5%
   Machinery: 3.011 tons, 14,9%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7.301 tons, 36,2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.264 tons, 16,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 3,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33.939 lbs / 15.395 Kg = 133,0 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 5,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 15,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,36 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m (21,33 ft / 6,50 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   18,04 ft / 5,50 m (19,69 ft / 6,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21,97 ft / 6,70 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,9%
   Waterplane Area: 35.945 Square feet or 3.339 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 130%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 631 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,18
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Spee]

@Huszar + Lutscha,

so, jetzt blasse ich euch aus dem Wasser      !!!!!

"Wütend" , Deutschland Leichter Schlachtkreuzer laid down 1935

Displacement:
   24.072 t light; 25.029 t standard; 30.024 t normal; 34.020 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   759,75 ft / 753,77 ft x 90,22 ft (Bulges 91,86 ft) x 27,10 ft (normal load)
   231,57 m / 229,75 m x 27,50 m (Bulges 28,00 m)  x 8,26 m

Armament:
     2 - 17,99" / 457 mm guns in single mounts, 2.912,18lbs / 1.320,94kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     12 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns (6x2 guns), 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     24 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6.279 lbs / 2.848 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   8 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8,27" / 210 mm   603,02 ft / 183,80 m   11,38 ft / 3,47 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 123% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,38" / 35 mm   603,02 ft / 183,80 m   25,03 ft / 7,63 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9,84" / 250 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      3,94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 5,31" / 135 mm, Conning tower: 4,72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
   Geared drive, 3 shafts, 122.511 shp / 91.393 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 15.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.992 tons

Complement:
   1.139 - 1.482

Cost:
   £10,126 million / $40,505 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 785 tons, 2,6%
   Armour: 8.610 tons, 28,7%
      - Belts: 2.323 tons, 7,7%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 770 tons, 2,6%
      - Armament: 514 tons, 1,7%
      - Armour Deck: 4.905 tons, 16,3%
      - Conning Tower: 98 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 3.480 tons, 11,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10.597 tons, 35,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.952 tons, 19,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 2,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     61.691 lbs / 27.983 Kg = 21,2 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 9,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
   Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 14,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,35
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,560
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,21 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 31,61 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (0%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (80%):      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (20%):   18,70 ft / 5,70 m (24,61 ft / 7,50 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,43 ft / 7,14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,5%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 188,7%
   Waterplane Area: 49.889 Square feet or 4.635 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 150 lbs/sq ft or 730 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,26
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Lutscha]

Bismarck, Deutschland Schlachtschiff laid down 1937

Displacement:
   43.058 t light; 45.024 t standard; 49.500 t normal; 53.081 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   831,84 ft / 820,21 ft x 111,55 ft (Bulges 121,39 ft) x 32,81 ft (normal load)
   253,55 m / 250,00 m x 34,00 m (Bulges 37,00 m)  x 10,00 m

Armament:
     8 - 16,14" / 410 mm guns (2x4 guns), 2.535,32lbs / 1.150,00kg shells, 1937 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     20 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (10x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,02kg shells, 1937 Model
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
     40 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1937 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     80 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (20x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1937 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 21.644 lbs / 9.817 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   425,56 ft / 129,71 m   12,66 ft / 3,86 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 80% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      2,76" / 70 mm   425,56 ft / 129,71 m   29,17 ft / 8,89 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   17,7" / 450 mm   11,8" / 300 mm      16,9" / 430 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,79" / 20 mm            -

  - Armour deck: 5,91" / 150 mm, Conning tower: 15,75" / 400 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 160.754 shp / 119.923 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 15.000nm at 15,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.057 tons

Complement:
   1.659 - 2.157

Cost:
   £22,037 million / $88,149 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.273 tons, 4,6%
   Armour: 15.044 tons, 30,4%
      - Belts: 3.058 tons, 6,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.266 tons, 2,6%
      - Armament: 3.135 tons, 6,3%
      - Armour Deck: 7.127 tons, 14,4%
      - Conning Tower: 457 tons, 0,9%
   Machinery: 4.455 tons, 9,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 20.685 tons, 41,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.442 tons, 13,0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 1,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     82.439 lbs / 37.394 Kg = 39,2 x 16,1 " / 410 mm shells or 13,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23
   Metacentric height 8,6 ft / 2,6 m
   Roll period: 17,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,530
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,76 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33,66 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31,17 ft / 9,50 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   31,17 ft / 9,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      27,89 ft / 8,50 m (26,25 ft / 8,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   26,08 ft / 7,95 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,8%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 194,7%
   Waterplane Area: 65.238 Square feet or 6.061 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 224 lbs/sq ft or 1.095 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,56
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Huszar]

Meine lieblings Super-As, jetzt auf die exackten Mun Gewichten getrimmt, etwas weniger Flak, die 35 Extratonnen sind abgezogen
Und genug isses.

Scharnhorst, Germany Super-A-Kreuzer laid down 1935

Displacement:
   23 883 t light; 24 917 t standard; 29 895 t normal; 33 877 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721,65 ft / 708,66 ft x 88,58 ft (Bulges 95,14 ft) x 26,90 ft (normal load)
   219,96 m / 216,00 m x 27,00 m (Bulges 29,00 m)  x 8,20 m

Armament:
     6 - 11,02" / 280 mm guns (2x3 guns), 700,00lbs / 317,51kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     12 - 5,00" / 127 mm guns (6x2 guns), 61,75lbs / 28,01kg shells, 1935 Model
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 4,63lbs / 2,10kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     22 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (11x2 guns), 0,32lbs / 0,15kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     8 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0,32lbs / 0,15kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 5 025 lbs / 2 279 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   12 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   459,32 ft / 140,00 m   11,48 ft / 3,50 m
   Ends:   1,97" / 50 mm   131,23 ft / 40,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     118,11 ft / 36,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   452,76 ft / 138,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      2,36" / 60 mm   597,11 ft / 182,00 m   21,33 ft / 6,50 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6,10" / 155 mm   4,33" / 110 mm      4,33" / 110 mm
   2nd:   1,38" / 35 mm   1,38" / 35 mm      1,18" / 30 mm
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 4,92" / 125 mm, Conning tower: 2,95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion motors,
   Geared drive, 3 shafts, 134 150 shp / 100 076 Kw = 31,50 kts
   Range 15 000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8 960 tons

Complement:
   1 136 - 1 477

Cost:
   £9,538 million / $38,152 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 600 tons, 2,0 %
   Armour: 8 852 tons, 29,6 %
      - Belts: 2 797 tons, 9,4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 113 tons, 3,7 %
      - Armament: 620 tons, 2,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 4 261 tons, 14,3 %
      - Conning Tower: 61 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 3 811 tons, 12,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 020 tons, 33,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 012 tons, 20,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 2,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     56 369 lbs / 25 569 Kg = 84,2 x 11,0 " / 280 mm shells or 9,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 15,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,577
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31,17 ft / 9,50 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   29,53 ft / 9,00 m (22,31 ft / 6,80 m aft of break)
      - Mid (52 %):      21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   21,00 ft / 6,40 m
      - Stern:      20,51 ft / 6,25 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,06 ft / 7,03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 801 Square feet or 4 348 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 149 lbs/sq ft or 727 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,28
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Gneisenau, Germany Super-A-Kreuzer laid down 1935

Displacement:
   23 819 t light; 24 970 t standard; 29 955 t normal; 33 943 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721,65 ft / 708,66 ft x 90,22 ft (Bulges 95,14 ft) x 26,90 ft (normal load)
   219,96 m / 216,00 m x 27,50 m (Bulges 29,00 m)  x 8,20 m

Armament:
     8 - 11,02" / 280 mm guns (4x2 guns), 700,00lbs / 317,51kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
     12 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns (6x2 guns), 59,00lbs / 26,76kg shells, 1935 Model
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 4,63lbs / 2,10kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     22 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (11x2 guns), 0,32lbs / 0,15kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     8 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0,32lbs / 0,15kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 6 392 lbs / 2 899 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   12 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8,27" / 210 mm   456,04 ft / 139,00 m   11,48 ft / 3,50 m
   Ends:   1,97" / 50 mm   131,23 ft / 40,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     121,39 ft / 37,00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   452,76 ft / 138,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
     Main Belt covers 99 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   590,55 ft / 180,00 m   21,33 ft / 6,50 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      3,94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1,38" / 35 mm   1,38" / 35 mm      1,18" / 30 mm
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 4,33" / 110 mm, Conning tower: 2,56" / 65 mm

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion motors,
   Geared drive, 3 shafts, 134 391 shp / 100 255 Kw = 31,50 kts
   Range 15 000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8 973 tons

Complement:
   1 138 - 1 480

Cost:
   £10,073 million / $40,293 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 727 tons, 2,4 %
   Armour: 8 361 tons, 27,9 %
      - Belts: 2 702 tons, 9,0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 917 tons, 3,1 %
      - Armament: 865 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 823 tons, 12,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0,2 %
   Machinery: 3 818 tons, 12,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 313 tons, 34,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 136 tons, 20,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 2,0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     52 751 lbs / 23 928 Kg = 78,8 x 11,0 " / 280 mm shells or 8,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
   Metacentric height 6,7 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 15,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,578
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 30,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      31,17 ft / 9,50 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   29,53 ft / 9,00 m (22,31 ft / 6,80 m aft of break)
      - Mid (52 %):      21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20,67 ft / 6,30 m
      - Stern:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   22,92 ft / 6,99 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 47 720 Square feet or 4 433 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 152 lbs/sq ft or 744 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,26
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Würde immernoch auf das Projekt mit 6*280 + 127mm voten.

Wie gesagt, morgen werde ich die vier Entwürfe mal ein wenig in "Ruhe" vergleichen.

mfg

alex

[Lutscha]

Ich hab die 330kg Granaten genommen, weil das die Granaten von den Geschützen der Scharnhorst waren, sie zur Verfügung standen und stärker sind.

[Spee]

@Lutscha,

Gegenentwurf!

Friedrich der Große, Deutschland Schlachtschiff laid down 1935

Displacement:
   42.793 t light; 44.823 t standard; 49.422 t normal; 53.100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   842,76 ft / 836,78 ft x 108,27 ft (Bulges 109,91 ft) x 31,82 ft (normal load)
   256,87 m / 255,05 m x 33,00 m (Bulges 33,50 m)  x 9,70 m

Armament:
     6 - 17,99" / 457 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.912,18lbs / 1.320,94kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
     16 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (8x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     32 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18.529 lbs / 8.405 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   8 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 123% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   29,89 ft / 9,11 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9,84" / 250 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      3,94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 7,87" / 200 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 163.792 shp / 122.189 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 10.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.277 tons

Complement:
   1.656 - 2.154

Cost:
   £20,846 million / $83,384 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.316 tons, 4,7%
   Armour: 17.147 tons, 34,7%
      - Belts: 4.073 tons, 8,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.457 tons, 2,9%
      - Armament: 1.301 tons, 2,6%
      - Armour Deck: 9.973 tons, 20,2%
      - Conning Tower: 343 tons, 0,7%
   Machinery: 4.653 tons, 9,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18.077 tons, 36,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.629 tons, 13,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 1,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     78.326 lbs / 35.528 Kg = 26,9 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 12,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 7,6 ft / 2,3 m
   Roll period: 16,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,591
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,61 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (0%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (80%):      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (20%):   18,70 ft / 5,70 m (24,61 ft / 7,50 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,43 ft / 7,14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,0%
   Waterplane Area: 68.466 Square feet or 6.361 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 195 lbs/sq ft or 954 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,21
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Lutscha]

Spee, deine Türme sind aus Pappe, mach lieber 2-3cm Deck weg.

[Spee]

@Lutscha,

die sollen kämpfen und sich nicht verstecken!!!!    
War nur so mal schnell eingetippt    .

[Spee]

Besser?

Friedrich der Große, Deutschland Schlachtschiff laid down 1935

Displacement:
   42.793 t light; 44.823 t standard; 49.422 t normal; 53.100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   842,76 ft / 836,78 ft x 108,27 ft (Bulges 109,91 ft) x 31,82 ft (normal load)
   256,87 m / 255,05 m x 33,00 m (Bulges 33,50 m)  x 9,70 m

Armament:
     6 - 17,99" / 457 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.912,18lbs / 1.320,94kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
     16 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (8x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     32 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18.529 lbs / 8.405 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   8 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 123% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,97" / 50 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   29,89 ft / 9,11 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   9,84" / 250 mm      7,48" / 190 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 7,09" / 180 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 163.792 shp / 122.189 Kw = 31,00 kts
   Range 10.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.277 tons

Complement:
   1.656 - 2.154

Cost:
   £20,846 million / $83,384 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.316 tons, 4,7%
   Armour: 16.995 tons, 34,4%
      - Belts: 4.073 tons, 8,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.457 tons, 2,9%
      - Armament: 2.147 tons, 4,3%
      - Armour Deck: 8.976 tons, 18,2%
      - Conning Tower: 343 tons, 0,7%
   Machinery: 4.653 tons, 9,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18.228 tons, 36,9%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.629 tons, 13,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 1,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     77.200 lbs / 35.017 Kg = 26,5 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 12,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 7,3 ft / 2,2 m
   Roll period: 17,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,591
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,61 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (0%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (80%):      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (20%):   18,70 ft / 5,70 m (24,61 ft / 7,50 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,43 ft / 7,14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,0%
   Waterplane Area: 68.466 Square feet or 6.361 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 197 lbs/sq ft or 962 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,19
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Barbetten sollten imo 4xx dick sein, ebenso die Faceplates bei dem Kaliber. Gunhouse sollte 250-300 sein (so kann man Turmdecken mit 20+cm annehmen)

Ich bau mal die Yamato nach. (bzw eine bessere)

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@Lutscha,

schon erledigt!

Friedrich der Große, Deutschland Schlachtschiff laid down 1935

Displacement:
   42.793 t light; 44.823 t standard; 49.422 t normal; 53.100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   842,76 ft / 836,78 ft x 108,27 ft (Bulges 109,91 ft) x 31,82 ft (normal load)
   256,87 m / 255,05 m x 33,00 m (Bulges 33,50 m)  x 9,70 m

Armament:
     6 - 17,99" / 457 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.912,18lbs / 1.320,94kg shells, 1935 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward
     16 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (8x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,02kg shells, 1935 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
     16 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     32 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 18.529 lbs / 8.405 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   8 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 123% of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,18" / 30 mm   669,42 ft / 204,04 m   29,89 ft / 9,11 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,8" / 350 mm   9,84" / 250 mm      10,6" / 270 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,39" / 10 mm            -
   3rd:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,20" / 5 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 7,48" / 190 mm, Conning tower: 11,81" / 300 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 144.651 shp / 107.909 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 10.000nm at 18,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.277 tons

Complement:
   1.656 - 2.154

Cost:
   £20,459 million / $81,834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2.316 tons, 4,7%
   Armour: 17.434 tons, 35,3%
      - Belts: 4.073 tons, 8,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 874 tons, 1,8%
      - Armament: 2.670 tons, 5,4%
      - Armour Deck: 9.475 tons, 19,2%
      - Conning Tower: 343 tons, 0,7%
   Machinery: 4.109 tons, 8,3%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18.333 tons, 37,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.629 tons, 13,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 1,2%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     80.502 lbs / 36.515 Kg = 27,6 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 11,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 17,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
     and transom stern
   Block coefficient: 0,591
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,61 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 33,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forecastle (0%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (80%):      24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (20%):   18,70 ft / 5,70 m (24,61 ft / 7,50 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,70 ft / 5,70 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,43 ft / 7,14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182,0%
   Waterplane Area: 68.466 Square feet or 6.361 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 967 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,19
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Nach meinem Geschmack panzerst Du zu viel Fläche mit dem GP.