Schnellboote

[alo41]

Hi Urs,

I have corrected the list. Kemnad writes (page 138) that S 33 joined the 3 S-Ftl after having been lent to the 2 S-Ftl in Sep. 1941. I do not think that she was ever painted in the Baltic camouflage or got the Snake marking? The boats with the 6 S-Ftl were keept white. See photo of one with Tanga in Helsingör (File name Sönderborg is wrong).

There are many places that says that S 58 had the Dolpine marking. Do anyone know where this information comes from?

/Alo

[Urs Heßling]

hi, Alo,

Kemnad writes (page 138) that S 33 joined the 3 S-Ftl after having been lent to the 2 S-Ftl in Sep. 1941.

S 33 (Howaldt) gehörte bis April 1941 zur 2. SFltl und wurde am 6.4.41 an 6. SFltl übergeben
LtzS Bosse war Kommandant des Bootes in der 6. SFltl von 6.4.41 bis 1.8.41
Am 1.8.41 wurde das Boot an die 3. SFltl übergeben, Kommandant (kurz) OLtzS Lüders am und nach dem 15.8.41.  Am 15.9.41 wurde das Boot als unbesetzt gemeldet.
Am oder vor dem 1.10.41 übernahm OLtzS Stolzenburg das Boot und führte es bis 28.2.42

Ich habe keinen Nachweis, daß das Boot zwischenzeitlich noch einmal zur 2. SFltl gehörte.

I do not think that she was ever painted in the Baltic camouflage or got the Snake marking?

Das sehe ich auch so.

Gruß, Urs

[alo41]

Urs,

I think that S 33 was only lent to the 2 S-Ftl (in Windau?) and was never fully transfered. Kemnad writes that S 33 did the first mission with the 3 S-Ftl on the 22 Sep. together with S 54. S 33 then left for Swinemünde on the 25 Sep.

/Alo

[Urs Heßling]

moin, Alo,

Ich komme nicht darum herum, daß alles im BA/MA in den Flottillen-KTB nachzusehen.

Gruß, Urs

[alo41]

Hi,

There is a 3 S-Ftl album for sale on Ebay.de. The seller is also offering a Soldbuch.
They can be from S 59. There is a signature from Albert Müller and a photo.

Soldbuch: Militaria 321  (Soldbuch, Schnellboot)
Album: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-Marine-3-Schnellboot-Flottille-ITALIEN-spater-Zerstorer-Paul-Jacobi-/310877035743?pt=Militaria&hash=item4861b71cdf

There is on photo that I think shows MRS 11?

/Alo

[Urs Heßling]

moin,

There is on photo that I think shows MRS 11?

zumindest höchstwahrscheinlich: Ostsee 1941

Gruß, Urs

[alo41]

Hi,

I did some more on my tabel. I assumed that S 59 is Sea star as was suggested in another thread.

There is then a photo in Hümmelchen (page ~208) that shows Crocodile, Shark ant two more boats. The text says it is in Gaeta. That is wrong , it is in Formia. I think it is the seconde group (S 54, S 56, S 57, S 58 and S 59) in ~Feb 1942 (snow on the mountins). One of S 56 and S 57 is then Shark.

Two of the remaining boats must be Lobster and Deep sea fish and have had Baltic camouflage. They must be S 57 and S 60.

S 56 must then be Shark and S 36 must be Saw fish.

/Alo

[alo41]

moin,

Where is it? Vegesack?
Link1: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/264262/26450981
Link2: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/264262/26450975

Nein. Der Hintergrund paßt nicht zu deutschen Nordseehäfen. Möglich wären mMn: Kiel, Eckernförde, Flensburg, Stralsund.

Gruß, Urs

I think I have found this place.    Travemünde

Postcard with Tsingtau and 1 S-Ftl.

/Alo

[alo41]

There is a 3 S-Ftl album for sale on Ebay.de. The seller is also offering a Soldbuch.
They can be from S 59. There is a signature from Albert Müller and a photo.

Soldbuch: Militaria 321  (Soldbuch, Schnellboot)
Album: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fotoalbum-Marine-3-Schnellboot-Flottille-ITALIEN-spater-Zerstorer-Paul-Jacobi-/310877035743?pt=Militaria&hash=item4861b71cdf

There was also two photos in the album showing the final day for the 3 S-Ftl in Finland.
S 60, S 55, S 54, S 59 and S 57 went from Windau to Turku (the old 2 S-Ftl base at Pensor?) on 21 Sep. They met there with the Begleitschiff Carl Peters.

/Alo

[alo41]

There is some 51 VP-Ftl photos on Ebay. Link: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Nachlass-Norwegen-Mal-y-1941-Schnellboot-S-15-S-16-2-WK-14-Fotos-/111291673223?pt=Militaria&hash=item19e9802a87

Is it the Begleitschiffe Carl Peters with 3 S-Ftl?


/Alo

[alo41]

Hi,

It is not Carl Peters. It is Adolf Lüderitz. Intresting camouflage on one of the Schnellboote (Type S 30?).

Where can it be?

A photo showing Adolf Lüderitz with the same camouflage in Windau 1941.

A better photo showing Carl Peters.

Note the yellow(?) gun shields on both ships and the yellow roof over the gun on Carl Peters. Is there any documentation regarding yellow color in the Baltic 1941?

/Alo

[Urs Heßling]

hi, Alo,

S 60, S 55, S 54, S 59 and S 57 went from Windau to Turku (the old 2 S-Ftl base at Pensor?) on 21 Sep.

Nur 4 Boote gingen nach Pensar (Frage mit ja beantwortet), S 54 mußte wegen Maschinenschaden umkehren und blieb mit S 53 (von 2. SFltl der 3. zugeteilt) in Windau.
Qu.: KTB 3. SFltl 16.-30.9.41

Gruß, Urs

[alo41]

Hi Urs,

Thank you for the information. The house in the background is then the young "Lotta" house.  Link: http://www.pensarsyd.com/en/majoitus/viihtyisia-huoneistoja

Kemnad writes that S 33 joined S 54 in Windau. I guess that S 53 is the correct boat and S 33 is a misstake.

/Alo

[Urs Heßling]

Kemnad write that S 33 joined S 54 in Windau. I guess that S 53 is the correct boat and S 33 is a misstake.

Ja. S 33 wurde von 6. SFltl an 3. SFltl übergeben, aber für dringend reparaturbedürftig befunden (Rep. in Wilhelmshaven bis ca. 5.10.41)

Gruß, Urs

[alo41]

Urs,

Good, that makes more sence.

Carl Peters were at Pensar once before in June 1941. She had a diffrent "Baltic" camoflage with stripes at that time. (see also page 1, this thread) What did Carl Peters do between June and Sep.? She was not with her 1 S-Ftl in Helsinki as I understand it. Did she stay at Pensar? When was she repainted?

/Alo