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alo41

Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 30 Oktober 2024, 14:06:57Ein möglicher Kandidat (nur anhand Verleihdatum DKiG (15.10.43) und Dienststellung in der Schnellboots-Lehrdivision) wäre Gerhard Meyering

Hi Urs,

I think the DkiG man is only Oberleutnant and Meyering is Kptlt at this time. It looks like that on two of the group photos (always difficult to see). He also moves to the side when more officers (Kptlt Siems etc.) comes. They are normaly standing in rank order when posing on group photos.

I thought it could be Hans Besser Sperwaffenoffizier Stab FdS but he was also Kptlt.
Commander on HvW Oblt Jacobson did not have any DkiG.
I will keep looking.

/Alo
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alo41

Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 30 Oktober 2024, 15:09:39Nach Befehl : praktisch gleichzeitig
Bis zum 2.7.1944 ist Oblt.z.S. Stohwasser stv. Flottillenchef, ab 3.7. Kptlt Holzapfel
Im KTB FdS für den Zeitraum 1.- 15.7. wird Holzapfel als Flottillenchef genannt.

Great Urs!
I think this is exactly what we see on this photo. 5 Sftl, HvW, S 65 "PS", S 80 and S 67 in Sassnitz early July 1944. More photos here in my post #1716. Link: https://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php?topic=18105.1710
The "PS" marking is then from Paul Sobotka and is left from when he handed over S 65 to 8 SFtl in 1943!

Thanks
Alo
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alo41

Hi

Holzapfel / 5 Sftl in Finland

There are several photos that looks like they were taken in a forest. I think they must be from the camouflaged HvW in Finland. Akira posted some coler photos here: https://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,38890.0.html

I do not know any of the officers or why they have civilan visitors.

The 5 Sftl is also photographed in a forest. Looks like Holzapfel is making a speach. Could it be about Finlands withdrawel from the war? It also looks like they are being inspected. The officers have thire swords.

/Alo
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alo41

Hi

The MStA with the 5 Sftl is probebly Dr. Nikolaus Wege.

The last Holzapfel photos are with 7 SFtl in the Med.

1. Two officers (Oblt and Lt?). Who can it be? What does the bar above the pocket mean on the Oblt?

2. La Spezia, probebly S 151, note italian air recognition red white stripes. It looks like this photo is from the same roll as no. 1.

3. Holzapfel in Dec 1943 by Viareggio.

4-5.  S 151. Can anyone read the signature on the "Freigegeben" stamp on the back? Is it an italian ship on the last photo?
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Urs Heßling

moin,

Zitat von: alo41 am 03 November 2024, 17:26:26Two officers (Oblt and Lt?). Who can it be? What does the bar above the pocket mean on the Oblt?
Ich meine mich zu erinnern, daß das Bild auch im Kemnade-Buch Die Afrika-Flottille vorhanden ist und einer der Beiden als Oblt.z.S Marxen bezeichnet wurde

Zitat von: alo41 am 03 November 2024, 17:26:26Can anyone read the signature on the "Freigegeben" stamp on the back?
Holzapfel ?

Gruß, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

alo41

Hi Urs,

I can't find the photo in my edition of Die Afrikaflottille. I do like Marxen as the Oblt. I think he looks like the guy to the left on the S 152 Heye photo. Linke post # 1938: https://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php?topic=18105.1935

There is some confusion over Marxen's rank in HMA. It say Lt on the S 152 and S 157 pages and Oblt in his profile.

Yes, it could be Holzapfel's signature. Could he free his own photos?
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Urs Heßling

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moin,

Zitat von: alo41 am 03 November 2024, 23:25:49There is some confusion over Marxen's rank in HMA. It say Lt on the S 152 and S 157 pages and Oblt in his profile.
Marxen war noch Leutnant zur See während er S 152 im Jahr 1942 and S 157 im Jahr 1943 kommandierte; er war Oberleutnant, als er S 156 am 1.7.1944 übernahm

Das Beförderungsdatum "00.00.1940" steht für Ungewißheit im Zeitraum 1943-44, da das Programm den Eintrag "1943 oder 1944" nicht zuläßt und ich nichts Falsches schreiben wollte; es stimmt, daß es verwirrend wirken mag

Gruß, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

PS

ZitatThe SS Charles R. McCormick (PS befehl documents) was loaded with "Bannwaren". Do anyone know what it was?
Finally..:-) From Bundesarchive, RH 12-21/31 Feldzeugstab Nord.
regards
PS


alo41

Hej PS,

I think the 1000 Ford trucks are intresting. Were they part of the aborted british plan to take the swedish iron ore mines at the same time as helping Finland?

/Alo
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PS

ZitatI think the 1000 Ford trucks are intresting. Were they part of the aborted british plan to take the swedish iron ore mines at the same time as helping Finland?
Seems like the cargo was intended for Finland. Some of the ships in Bergen(area) 9th of april when the germans invaded had cargo intended for Finland. Flying Fish had been in Narvik, unloaded some(all?) of the cargo.
All in all, 1676 Ford trucks intended for Finaland. 1200 of them in Bergen (Charles McCormick just outside Bergen)
regards
PS
(Source, Flying Fish note AH-Forum, others Bundesarchive, RH 12-21/31 Feldzeugstab Nord)

Urs Heßling

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moin,

Zitat von: PS am 22 November 2024, 14:38:20Some of the ships in Bergen(area) 9th of april when the germans invaded had cargo intended for Finland.
zu Schiff 1 : mit Ersatzteilen für Brewster F2A Buffalo wie diese

zu Schiff 3 : wechselvolle Geschichte : Mostun

zu Schiff 4 : Schiff Nina mit 4 Geschützen der Wolja

Gruß, Urs
"History will tell lies, Sir, as usual" - General "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne zu seiner Niederlage bei Saratoga 1777 im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg - nicht in Wirklichkeit, aber in George Bernard Shaw`s Bühnenstück "The Devil`s Disciple"

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